[Bug,csc]Choran Minigunner gets temp atk at end turn instead of opponent's start turn

OGC used "End turn:" triggers to allow things to happen at the start of the opponent's turn. However, it appears that NGC presently actually executes those commands at the end of the owner's turn. This means that temporary stats gained at End turn: will wear off immediately. This afflicts:

Rudi Key
Resilient Nightengale
Cloudborne Academy
Choran Minigunner
Mechazor Four

I'm not sure if this is really a bug or if it's just a substantial oversight. It may be worth having a "Start of opponent's turn:" trigger added to the game, possibly worded better so it doesn't take so much card space.

Hey, if this is the case, what about the various kappa with "End turn: Change owners" triggers? If they always run off immediately before the default turn end logic, does that mean they can keep temporary stats and other status effects supposed to expire at end of turn indefinitely?

This one's an oversight; temp stats are defined as running out at the same time that 'until end of turn' and 'this turn' durations end (on either player's turn; kappa should still lose temp stats as normal), so it no longer makes sense for them to be given as an end-of-turn trigger (as those go off shortly before then). These cards should change to go off at the start of the opponent's turn.

Serith can fix this when he's doing CSC stuff next.

Out of curiosity, what's the new template for the start of the opponent's turn? Because Start of Opponent's Turn: is an awfully large amount of text to designate a common trigger.

"Opponent's start phase:"? "After turn:"?

(07-05-2012 10:56 AM)xX Crow Xx Wrote:  Out of curiosity, what's the new template for the start of the opponent's turn? Because Start of Opponent's Turn: is an awfully large amount of text to designate a common trigger.

Likely "Start of opponent's turn" yes. We can't think of anything better that's both clear and doesn't sound stupid. And yes, it'll make even more cards need extended text; we're working on THAT too, but hopefully people can deal with it temporarily?

Incidentally, I've started working on some templating work. Not ALL of it, mind, but a good start that you'll likely see soon. Mostly structural stuff, with wording conformity coming later.

I'll use "Start of both players' turns:" instead of "Start/end:" for now, since it's a little shorter.

EDIT: 10 points to Crow for the original report and list of cards bugged.

Should probably be "Start of either player's turn:", since any given triggering won't be due to both players' turns starting at once.

"Start of each turn"

"Start of each turn" might be confused as "start of all MY turns"; I think it would be better to clarify that with "either player's".

Current wording is "your" for your phase, "opponent's" for opponent's phase, and "each" for both player's. At least that's the current standard.

Choran Minigunner is still broken; the temporary stat loss is immediately recovered.

The following are all fixed:
Rudi Key
Resilient Nightengale
Cloudborne Academy
Mechazor Four

5 points to xX Crow Xx for confirming the fixes and reporting the non-fix.