Pokémon

I usually have avatars disabled, so I had to switch them back on to see what the fuss is about. Honestly, since the only one on this page remotely related to a pony is Nolder's one (which is just a horse right now) I consider all of them a step up from before.

It's suddenly occured to me that I frequnetly raise Pokemon in my version of White when bored, despite never actually using my teams against anyone. Maybe I should try and get my wi-fi working properly, challenge some internet sort-of-strangers.

Pokemon are okay but ponies are not?

Game Freak finally ran out of colours.

Also... global release. That's pretty awesome.

Fennekin is awesome.

(Spoilers: All three starters evolve into Fire/Fighting types)

Fennec foxes are adorable.

It's cute, but didn't we already have a firefox? And another one? And a fox that's not on fire?

A lot of people consider Eevee to be fennec-like too. But who cares if it's unoriginal; it's cute.

Speaking of eevee, there's a rumour that that the short that airs with the next pokémon movie will debut a new eevee. It's an eevee based short.

But yeah... we've got a fire fenec fox already =P Maybe Froakie will be water/fight or Fire/poison like the frogs we already have (Incidentally, I'm currently leaning towards said frog)!

I admit Chespin is likely safe from the perils of unoriginality, though.

(01-09-2013 01:33 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  Speaking of eevee, there's a rumour that that the short that airs with the next pokémon movie will debut a new eevee. It's an eevee based short.

Hmm. Types that don't have an Eeveelution yet: Fighting, Flying, Poison, Ground, Rock, Bug, Ghost, Steel, Dragon. (And Normal, technically, that's not an Eeveelution.) With Dragon being the only remaining one that used to be a Special type in generations I-III.

They generally shy away from Flying single-types and I guess a Fighting fox would be a little weird, though Eeveelutions often take traits from other animals depending on what type they have (Vaporeon is vaguely seal-like, Espeon is more cat-like than typical Eeveelutions and has a nekomata tail, and Umbreon might be based on the moon bunny myth, though it doesn't look particularly bunny-ish to me). Poison and Ground would be quite reasonable as new Eeveelutions, though, and the rest of the list are quite plausible if they feel like doing something wacky, which is hardly unusual for the series. (Bug-fox?)

(01-09-2013 01:33 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  I admit Chespin is likely safe from the perils of unoriginality, though.

It's name vaguely suggests it's supposed to have hedgehog traits, although it doesn't look hedgehoggy to me.

In any case, we already had a grass hedgehog and nothing is ever going to outcute Shaymin, so don't bother trying.

Shy from it, sure, but they do have a mono fly type now as of gen V (as in... one. And it's legendary), which has kindled my hope we'll get a flyeon... eventually. But yeah... who can say what to expect in ways of new eeveelutions (if we even get any, they may have no intentions of going beyond the 1 -> 7)?

My top three hopes are fly, poison, and ghost, in that order.

(01-09-2013 04:55 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  They do have a mono fly type, though, as of gen V (as in... one. And it's legendary),

Two, technically, if you count Arceus with the appropiate plate equipped.

But yeah, I'm not counting legendaries.

Go go Normal+ form of mon #133 for X and Y? Looks normal, anyway. Mayhap Flying? Only typings I can think of that fit its looks.

Or, and this is possibly crazy talk, but... Mayhap X & Y will bring in 100% original typings? Yoru told this individual about rumors of Sound and Light typings... So who knows?

Anyway its tag, in Japan, is Ninfia.

No word on additional forms as of now, but Ninfia is going to show up on film this July in Japan, just to confirm that rumor I brought up a handful of posts back.

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The English name's Sylveon. Considering the French name's evident source, the Japanese name's etymology likewise potentially suggests certain Greek legendary women embodying nature inspired the creature. The English name, likewise, clearly modifies one term describing nature.

Difficulties are posed, because one verdant-type Eeveelution, Leafeon, already exists.

Perhaps even Insect type? The "bowties" vaguely reminisce butterflies, furthermore aforementioned Greek beings' name produced scientific terminology describing insects' early development stage. Yet, the creature barely appears insectile. Seems unlikely.

Venom type's contemplation surfaces briefly, since nature frequently employs suchlike, yet Sylveon appears... overly cute. Some Venom types are cute, yet inevitably retain some edginess. Sylveon appears deceptively harmless. The hues, red, white, some little blue, rarely suggest venom either.

Earth, maybe, yet zero features suggest tunneling behavior. Stone type, even less likely.

Wyvern type's (stretched terminology, apologies, yet the proper name's barely better defined regardless) excessively vague definition means nearly everything potentially applies, when desired, yet once more there are zero clues suggesting relevant influence.

Bugle proposes Flutter type? The creature includes zero aerodynamical appendages. Likewise concerning feathers.

Tussle type? Once again, where are relevant appendages?

Steel, Spectre types beyond consideration.

The one theme the creature undeniably represents: prettiness. Pale red, bowties, clearly reflect feminine ideals. Yet cuteness alone implies zero clues concerning the creature's duelling style.

One wonders whether some more masculine Eeveelution likewise approaches...

(Remember, the new generation's games are named after therians' gender-determination chromosomes...)

Flying types... well... Gyrados is considered flying, yet it apparently can't.

Gardevoir and Kirlia, are feminine in appearance and can have either gender. Ralts is oddly male looking considering...

cute type pokémon are generally normal types. I really don't want this to be a natural evolution... as it looks hideous to me for that purpose. That isn't to say I mind it's existance, I just don't want it to be the default progression of Eevee.

"Again" has no e's in it... you probably meant "more"

I thought mayhap flying as its ribbons kind of look as though blowing through wind. Also, an attack it has shows what looks similar to a flurry of crimson down. This is in no way proof, but in light of a lack of additional proof, it's not a horrid notion. Still, I wouldn't 100% stand by my prior thought, though. 10% tops, as I concur with your analysis of its lack of limbs that suit a flying mon.

I also concur with your analysis of all of dragon, bug, ground, rock, ghost, alloy, and fighting (though for fighting, mayhap it just kicks? Ignoring that it looks nothing at all similar to a fighting mon), though it's not as though mons always own obvious typings (Garchop looks as though it shouldn't own ground OR dragon typings, truthfully...).

Signs still mostly point towards normal+ (or any additional typings that may show up, which is a possibility though not a probability).

Also, kudos on your unusually long post. Going past 100 is rough as it is, and you go past 200! I am just shy of that, but don't want to artificially add additional words as that would diminish your triumph.

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(02-14-2013 08:41 PM)Loyle Wrote:  Flying types... well... Gyrados is considered flying, yet it apparently can't.

Supernatural levitation. Self-propelled aerial serpents have some appeal.

(02-14-2013 08:41 PM)Loyle Wrote:  Gardevoir and Kirlia, are feminine in appearance and can have either gender. Ralts is oddly male looking considering...

Wrote "feminine". Never claimed Sylveon looked "female".

(02-14-2013 08:41 PM)Loyle Wrote:  cute type pokémon are generally normal types.

Indeed.

(There are plenty adorable creatures under other types, albeit those nonetheless retain some evidence suggesting their type. Here, SOLELY cuteness be observed.)

Yet, one resists the idea because Eevee itself already possesses Regular type. Yet, maybe the idea deserves merit regardless...?

The masculine counterpart, perhaps, then be Tussle - the type possessing the interestingest interaction opposite Regular. Furthermore, Tussle self-evidently represents stereotypical masculine attributes. (Alternatively, Specter's quite opposite Regular, yet less inherently masculine.)

Declaring feminine attributes Regular, while masculine attributes are something else, seems dangerous...

(02-14-2013 08:41 PM)Loyle Wrote:  I really don't want this to be a natural evolution... as it looks hideous to me for that purpose. That isn't to say I mind it's existance, I just don't want it to be the default progression of Eevee.

"Hideous" perhaps be the incorrect term choice considering the creature's evident cuteness, however indeed the creature's style seems quite different beside Eevee itself. Other Eeveelutions remain equally "true" successors.

Hence the reason some Regular Eeveelution seems quite unexpected.

(02-14-2013 08:41 PM)Loyle Wrote:  "Again" has no e's in it... you probably meant "more"

Argh, again!?!?

There's been a lot of talk/speculation about new types being added, particularly Light and Sound. I'm not really convinced myself, as it'd involve a lot of retyping of older pokémon/moves (though they did this when adding Steel/Dark types in Gen 2), and there's so much fake news about Gen 6 that I don't pay attention to most of it. Some people think this'll be Light type, though I'm not really seeing it.

Cuteness or prettiness wouldn't be an unprecedented association - maxing out its Beauty stat is how Milotic evolves from Feebas (and happens to have a similar colour scheme). There's the possibility of it just being Normal type in this case, but that'd be a bit odd considering the number of unused types.

EDIT: Also, Eevee can learn Wish :3

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  I thought mayhap flying as its ribbons kind of look as though blowing through wind.

The idea occured, yet they appear overly flexible. The breeze bends the streamers, the streamers bending the wind seems improbable.

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  limbs that suit a flying mon

Thine edicts permit simpler terminology... (Spoiler: doubleyou eye en gee (ess).)

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  alloy

Please, there are better terms referencing ferrous metal...

Numerous "Steel" types aren't even really steel. One evolutionary line's bronze. Registeel, despite the name, composes some unidentified super-metal.

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  and fighting (though for fighting, mayhap it just kicks? Ignoring that it looks nothing at all similar to a fighting mon),

Yes, yet Sylveon possesses beastlike feet, seemingly digitigrade, likely clawed, unlike the clearly more humanlike feet leg-strike users are frequently depicted possessing.

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  though it's not as though mons always own obvious typings

True. Nonetheless.

(02-14-2013 09:21 PM)masamunemaniac Wrote:  image

The insect panel especially amuses me.

(02-14-2013 09:21 PM)masamunemaniac Wrote:  There's been a lot of talk/speculation about new types being added, particularly Light and Sound. I'm not really convinced myself, as it'd involve a lot of retyping of older pokémon/moves (though they did this when adding Steel/Dark types in Gen 2), and there's so much fake news about Gen 6 that I don't pay attention to most of it. Some people think this'll be Light type, though I'm not really seeing it.

Agreed.

Need mention: Were there none already, Esper-type'd be one serious candidate, since these often appear deceptively harmless. Yet, one Regular-type Eeveelution seems preferred over doubled Esper-types.

(02-14-2013 09:21 PM)masamunemaniac Wrote:  Cuteness or prettiness wouldn't be an unprecedented association - maxing out its Beauty stat is how Milotic evolves from Feebas (and happens to have a similar colour scheme).

Numerous pocket monsters are very cute/pretty. Few actively use cuteness/prettiness like their power source. Suchlike seems unnecessary...

(02-14-2013 09:21 PM)masamunemaniac Wrote:  There's the possibility of it just being Normal type in this case, but that'd be a bit odd considering the number of unused types.

Yes. Hope they use those, some are interesting.