Pokémon

(02-14-2013 09:35 PM)Milo Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  limbs that suit a flying mon

Thine edicts permit simpler terminology... (Spoiler: doubleyou eye en gee (ess).)

Occasionally I think too hard about which words I can put in my posts this month and miss obvious options =(

(02-14-2013 09:35 PM)Milo Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 09:07 PM)Norlaan Wrote:  alloy

Please, there are better terms referencing ferrous metal...

...And, similarly, occasionally I don't think as hard as I should =P

I thought of using "iron," but thought it too faulty, although similar.

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Oooooh, animation.

First attack is that attack I thought had crimson down. But it was charging up for a blast? Dunno what attack it is, nor its typing. Flaming?

2nd attack is throwing cards? Ninfia is Gambit from X-individuals? Crazy. Back on track, I think it's Trump Card, which mon #133 can know normally, so not too surprising.

Third attack is just charging a black aura? Nothing I can grab from that...

Fourth (and last) is probably swift.

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Signs still point to Normal+ (though not 100%), from what I can grok of attacks two and four. Assuming I'm right =P

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Eevee and eeveelutions are able to learn Swift via Move Tutor in gens 3-4, and can come with it from the Dream World in gen 5, so that might not necessarily be indicative of Normal type, if perhaps they are considering making it easier for pokémon to learn all legal moves (they've already started that in gen 5 with reuseable TMs). Or if they're deliberately trying to confuse people as to what its type could be

Can't tell what the third move is, but it looks like one that only affects itself, such as a stat-increasing move or something.

The first move might be something like Energy Ball or Overheat? I can't remember what these look like, as I almost never have animations enabled, but there's potentially a couple of non-fire moves it could be.

Looks like it could be a ghost type based on that third move and maybe the second move. Its general appearance doesn't seem to rule out it being a ghost type, too.

So we now have Fletchling, Gogoat, Helioptile, and Pancham. The latter apparantly has nothing to do with Pansage/Pansear/Panpour. None look all that cute to me (that's what really matters, right?), but there you go(goat).

So for those who didn't notice the change I made under my avatar, Sylveon is confirmed as Fairy type, along with Jigglypuff, Gardevoir, and Marill (theoretically their evolutionary lines as well, and if clefairy isn't, I think I may just have to give up on pokemon ever making sense. One of the shown moves is moonbeam, even...).

Fairy is apparently SE against Dragon too.

I'd link the trailer, but that's more trouble than it's worth on my phone.

I guess now we need a Fairy Plate for Arceus...

For anyone interested, here is the trailer.

Hopefully this means there will be a lot of new dragon type Pokemon, too.

Fairy type? Really? What was wrong with Jigglypuff in Normal?

(06-11-2013 12:02 PM)Bugle Wrote:  if clefairy isn't, I think I may just have to give up on pokemon ever making sense.

Pokemon most closely resembling a Western dragon: Charizard.

Pokemon most closely resembling an Eastern dragon: Gyarados.

Pokemon that have Dragon type: Vibrava, Altaria.

...I don't think making sense was the objective.

Jigglypuff will apparantly be Normal/Fairy, rather than just Fairy.

Furabebe Flabebe (more és that I refuse to type?) is confirmed as another Fairy-type. And also looks Grassy, but apparantly that's not stated.

In other news, we have Noivern as a Flying/Dragon with creepy-looking false eyes, and the pixellated-looking Kofukimushi Scatterbug (Bug, go figure), Spewpa (Bug), and Vivillon (Bug/Flying) as new things to get your flyswatter out for.

The previously-announced Fletchling (Normal/Flying) evolves into Talonflame, and if you can't figure out what type that is, you have a problem.

In the waters, there's Clauncher as a Water type crustacean-thing, and Skrelp as an ugly-looking Poison/Water type.

More attractive is Shishiko Litleo, a Fire/Normal lion, in case the Electric lion wasn't enough for you. Shishiko does look cuter.

I'm still hoping they match Sylveon with another more masculine-looking Eeveelution, possibly Dragon-type or whatever else Fairy turns out to be weak/strong against.

Drageon would finish the "set" of "types that used to only be special" as well.

Fighteon would probably be a rather masculine eevee, and is rumoured to be strong against fairy (along with poison. And ice is rumored to be weak against fairy). Ground, rock, and steel would all (probably) be masculine as well. Ghost, poison, flying and bug I could see going either way.

(06-14-2013 10:26 AM)Bugle Wrote:  Drageon would finish the "set" of "types that used to only be special" as well.

Fighteon would probably be a rather masculine eevee, and is rumoured to be strong against fairy

Yeah, I was thinking Dragon or Fighting.

(06-14-2013 10:26 AM)Bugle Wrote:  And ice is rumored to be weak against fairy

Wow, does ice need another weakness? Ice is already weak against four types, and strong against nothing except itself.

I wouldn't put too much stock in "rumors" though. I mean, people were expecting types like Light and Sound, not Fairy. Most of these "rumors" are just things that one person guessed and then everybody started copying blindly with no evidence whatsoever.

If you want to guess what you think makes sense, go ahead, but try to do your own thinking.

(06-14-2013 10:26 AM)Bugle Wrote:  Ghost, poison, flying and bug I could see going either way.

Wait, either way in terms of being strong/weak against Fairy, or either way in terms of being masculine/feminine?

My guess is that Fairy is:
* Guaranteed to have special reactions to Dragon (strong on offense, and possibly also on defense).
* Most likely to have special reactions to Bug, Dark, Ghost, Grass, Psychic (alphabetical order).
* Might just have special reactions to Fighting or Poison, or maybe even Normal.
* Probably doesn't have special reactions to much else, if at all. (Except that Steel probably takes reduced damage from Fairy, because Steel takes reduced damage from everything. That doesn't count.)

I'd be surprised if Fairy turns out to be strong/weak against Flying.

(06-14-2013 10:48 AM)Milo Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 10:26 AM)Bugle Wrote:  And ice is rumored to be weak against fairy

Wow, does ice need another weakness? Ice is already weak against four types, and strong against nothing except itself.

I wouldn't put too much stock in "rumors" though. I mean, people were expecting types like Light and Sound, not Fairy. Most of these "rumors" are just things that one person guessed and then everybody started copying blindly with no evidence whatsoever.

Well, in this case, there's some actual evidence. It's just not sure if it's good evidence or not.

There was a skit on Smash TV with a girl dressed as a Sylveon experimenting with various types to see what she beat/beat her. Fighting was demonstrated as being strong against her, she was demonstrated karate chopping a block of ice, poison wound up strong on her too. I believe those were the only tests performed in the skit.

The thing though, is... it could have just been the Smash TV guys being silly. But they've apparently done similar things before and it's ended up being factual?

So yeah, more evidence than some guy hearing his gym teacher's pet rabbit's foster cousin's janitor tell him, but most assuredly not concrete proof in any way.

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And yeah, I meant I could see those types as anywhere on the masculine/feminine chart. Including androgynous.

I would like to see more "cute" ground/rock/steel types, really.

(06-14-2013 11:35 AM)Milo Wrote:  I would like to see more "cute" ground/rock/steel types, really.

Wish granted!

The new dinosaurs (Rock-type as typical of revived fossils) are pretty cute.

Meanwhile, though, the recently announced evolutions of Fennekin and Litleo show that, once again, Pokemon is not content to let cute things stay cute. (Though it's been hinted Pyroar's female form will look very different? Nevermind, still not pretty.)

In other news, Skiddo isn't too bad.

The biggest news, though, is that Fairy's type matchups are out!

STRONG OFFENSIVELY: Fighting, Dragon, Dark
WEAK OFFENSIVELY: Poison, Steel, Fire

WEAK DEFENSIVELY: Poison, Steel
STRONG DEFENSIVELY: Fighting, Bug, Dark
IMMUNE DEFENSIVELY!: Dragon

The weakness to Steel probably reflects myths of fairies being vulnerable to "cold iron".

I have no idea where the not-very-effectiveness against Fire comes from. The rest makes a reasonable amount of sense.

(06-14-2013 11:29 AM)Bugle Wrote:  There was a skit on Smash TV with a girl dressed as a Sylveon experimenting with various types to see what she beat/beat her. Fighting was demonstrated as being strong against her, she was demonstrated karate chopping a block of ice,

So yeah, not that.

No news on any second Eeveelution yet, even though Fairy's strength against Fighting would make a Fighteon this generation very fitting (as would a Drageon). Still hoping.

Cute or not, I'm just glad Fennekin doesn't evolve into yet another fire/fighting type. Kind of weird to see it's evolve form look like some sort of youkai though.

(09-13-2013 10:59 AM)Amanda Lynn Wrote:  Kind of weird to see it's evolve form look like some sort of youkai though.

It's obviously based on kitsune folklore. You know, just like Vulpix/Ninetails, Flareon, and Zorua.

Even though fennec foxes specifically aren't native to Japan.

If you're interested in youkai there's also Meowstic as a pretty obvious nekomata. Along with Espeon.

They're not very original.

(09-13-2013 10:59 AM)Amanda Lynn Wrote:  Cute or not, I'm just glad Fennekin doesn't evolve into yet another fire/fighting type.

People are suspecting it might eventually gain a Psychic type based on some of it's moves, though I'd rather they not be that derivative. Sometimes an animal with fire powers should just be an animal with fire powers.

Regardless, Squirtle remains best starter.

Fennekin evolves into a witch who uses a stick as a magic wand to cast fire magic.

Staying cute would've been nice, but this is also good.

You are aware that Pokemon starters have so far been invariably 87.5% male?

(09-13-2013 06:39 AM)Milo Wrote:  The biggest news, though, is that Fairy's type matchups are out!

STRONG OFFENSIVELY: Fighting, Dragon, Dark
WEAK OFFENSIVELY: Poison, Steel, Fire

WEAK DEFENSIVELY: Poison, Steel
STRONG DEFENSIVELY: Fighting, Bug, Dark
IMMUNE DEFENSIVELY!: Dragon

Also notable: Steel is no longer resistant to ghost or dark.

(09-14-2013 11:38 AM)Milo Wrote:  You are aware that Pokemon starters have so far been invariably 87.5% male?

I thought about that the other day though, and figured that would be a bit odd for the Fennekin line with the way they're taking it.

All it means in my case is that I need to save before getting my starter and reset until it's female.

(09-14-2013 08:29 PM)Bugle Wrote:  Also notable: Steel is no longer resistant to ghost or dark.

Oh, good. Steel being resistant to almost everything has been really annoying. Not so much from a balance perspective as just dealing with them in the wild or whatever (I'm only just getting around to playing Pokémon Black, and just went through Chargestone Cave, which has way too many Kilnks).