The CMC Pokèmon League

Welcome one and all to the CMC Pokèmon League!

This is a place where those who dare can challenge the league of CMC Gym Leaders to epic battles of Pokèmon, in an attempt to become the Champion of the CMC Pokèmon League!

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This basically works like any other Pokèmon gym challenge. However, since this is actual PvP gaming, special rules will be put into place to provide a more difficult path for any who would dare to challenge the league.

I will be administrating the league, and as such will be appointing four Gym Leaders to begin this. Since this is also my idea, I intend to start out as one of the gym leaders. That leaves three positions left to fill. If you wish to apply to become a Gym Leader, please send a PM to me with the subject line "Gym Leader Application", and answer the following questions:

- What pokemon type will your gym be, and why? (Don't name pokemon you will be using unless it's part of the reason!)
- What city will your gym be located in?
- What will your badge be called?
- Why do you think you would make a great Gym Leader?

Applications will be accepted for one week, whereupon three Gym Leaders will be decided, and the games shall begin! If the league grows in size, more Gym Leaders may be considered. I'd honestly like to have eight, but I'm starting small here.

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THE RULES

Basic League Rules

Quote:- 4th Generation settings must be used. (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Heart Gold, Soul Silver)
- Battles will be 6 on 6 Lv. 100 Matches.
- Both the gym leader and challenger are allowed substitutions.
- The first trainer to obtain all four badges will be crowned CMC League Champion.
- Any player obtaining all four badges afterwards must challenge the current Champion to obtain Champion status.
- A Gym Leader, after obtaining the other three badges, may step down from their position to challenge a replacement fourth Gym Leader, and then challenge for the title of Champion.
- A trainer may not be both Gym Leader and Champion.
- The Champion, while not restricted by type, is obligated to follow the code of the Gym Leaders regarding accessibility.

Gym Leader Accessibility Rules

Quote:Gym Leaders will be expected to maintain a minimum set of accessibility guidelines:

- Establish a thread in this subforum with the subject being the CMCPL acronym, followed by the name of your gym. (Ex.: CMCPL - Sunshine City Gym)
- Set at least one specific hour per week where anyone is free to challenge your gym, and post this in the first post of that thread along with your battling Friend Code.
- Challengers will challenge you in that thread, and are on a first-come-first-serve basis.
- Remain active. One hour a week may not be much, but it is still a commitment required of a Gym Leader.
- Encourage good sportsmanship. Remain unbiased and free from ultra-reactionary emotions, win or lose.

If it is determined that a Gym Leader is not fulfilling their duties properly, they can be closed down and replaced with another Gym upon decision of the administrator (me).

League Clauses

Quote:- Sleep/Freeze Clause -
Only one Pokemon may be asleep/frozen at the same time as another. You can, however, have one asleep and one frozen at the same time. Once one unfreezes, that Pokemon or another may be put back to sleep. Pokemon asleep due to the effects of Rest, Effect Spore, or accident do NOT count towards that limit. (Ex.: one trainer switches out a pokemon that was frozen by ice beam, and the other player used another ice beam on that swap-out turn, freezing a second pokemon)

- Dodge Clause -
Moves that increase or decrease evasion or accuracy are banned. (Ex.: Minimize, Lock-On, Sweet Scent, Sand Attack)

- OHKO Clause -
Moves that cause a One-Hit Knock Out are also banned. (Ex.: Guillotine, Fissure, Sheer Cold)

- Species Clause -
Each Pokemon on your team must be of a different species. A different Pokedex number means it's a different species.

- Hax Clause -
Luck-based items, a.k.a. "hax" items, may not be use. These are items that, through a percentage chance, give pokemon a special advantage. (Ex.: Quick Claw, Focus Band, Scope Lens, King's Rock, Razor Fang)

- Self-KO Clause -
If both players are down to their last Pokemon and one uses a move that kills itself, such as Explosion, Self-Destruct, Destiny Bond, or Memento, the trainer who used that move is considered the loser of the match.

- Uber Clause -
The following pokemon, considered "uber", may not be used in gym battles:

Code:

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (all forms)
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina (all forms)
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin (all forms)
Wobbuffet
Wynaut

Please take note that this list includes some pokemon that are non-legendary, and omits some that are legendary.

Let it be known that both challenging trainers AND Gym Leaders must follow these clauses set forth, or that trainer/leader will be disqualified.

Gym Leader Insurance Policy

Quote:Because of the aforementioned extra challenge in a PvP format, Gym Leaders will be given special handicaps to prevent instaloss, thus adding extra challenge and cultivating fairness. These allowances are as follows:

- Tweak Rules -
A Gym Leader, at his or her discretion, may institute up to three custom rules for their gym WITHIN REASON. (Ex.: 3 on 3 match instead of 6 on 6 match, only one item type allowed per pokemon, only one KO move allowed per team, etc.) If made, the Gym Leader must also follow those rules and display them prominently in the first post of their Gym Thread.

- Wildcard Pokemon -
A Gym Leader is allowed one wildcard pokemon per two gym type pokemon, rounded down. (Ex.: 6v6 = 2 wildcard; 5v5-4v4-3v3 = 1 wildcard; 2v2 or lower will not be allowed.) A wildcard pokemon is a pokemon that does not match the gym's type.

- Challenger Pokemon Restriction -
A Challenger may only have two of any type of pokemon that would have an advantage over a gym's type, and dual-type pokemon count once towards each type. (Ex.: a Normal type gym could not be challenged by more than two rock, ghost and steel pokemon, but could be challenged by two of each.)

- Challenger Move Restriction -
Of the 24 moves available over 6 pokemon, a Challenger may only have up to 4 of each movetype that would be super effective against the gym, with the exception of Normal and Electric gyms, where 6 are allowed. (Ex.: an ice type gym could not be challenged with more than four fire, fighting, rock or steel moves, but could be challenged with up to four of each [16 total moves in this instance].)

Questions or Comments about any of this should go in this thread. The application period is NOW OPEN!

So we make up a city? Or are we basing this on pre-existing Pokemon Geography.

Edit:
Oh, and to make it much, much, much more accessible, please consider using a PC peer-to-peer pokemon thing, like shoddy.

yeah
I could be available to play on shoddy many many many hours a week

even 1 hour a week on my DS is iffy since I don't have wifi and would have to travel to a friends house

not that I've even sent my application in yet or anything but I imagine that most people would prefer that anyway

City names can be made up or use pre-existing geography. It's the potential Gym Leader's call.

Is Shoddy compatible with the DS Communication service? (I.E. can someone with Shoddy play someone with a DS?) If it is, then the only problem I see would be hax pokemon (which I would put my foot down on really quick-like). If it isn't, I would have to decline that request.

It's not.

In that instance, I guess that limits what this league can do. I initiated it on the premise that there are currently 18 friend codes listed for pokemon. I prefer to do things legally...

Are there going to be any level restrictions or would people be able to use level 100 Pokemon and stuff?

I just assumed we were going with the level 50 cap option (that lowers your pokémon to level 50 if they happen to be above that).

(12-06-2009 06:18 PM)Bubbleman Wrote:  Are there going to be any level restrictions or would people be able to use level 100 Pokemon and stuff?

Woops... that's what I get for making this thread from 2am-3am.

Matches would be Lv. 100 by default, though the gym leader could use a tweak to make them Lv. 50. For those unfamiliar with this, there is an option when battling for you to select an open match, a Lv. 50 match, and a Lv. 100 match. In the case of both 50 and 100, the game automatically sets your pokemon's stats to how they would be at those levels. A 6 on 6 Lv. 100 Match would be 6 Lv. 100 pokemon vs. 6 Lv. 100 pokemon, regardless of what level they were going in.

I think you can't hax shoddy, which is a good reason for using it. Like it limits to the max iv and such avaliable.

(30 minutes of checking)

Well, upon checking it out, it doesn't limit the IV/Max stats, but the normal game is so easy to hack anyway and can't we all trust each other here? Or just export the team to text and PM you so you can see how non-cheating it is. In CMC tourny's it's actually quite easy to "cheat" as by simply naming two decks the same (with only minor differences in them) or just swapping out a few cards between matches. Mods would be the only ones to know.

tl;dr: Trust is needed. Give shoddy a go.

Edit: Oh, it does come up with a red number instead if you go over. BUt not sure if it lets you save the team or not.

Nevermind. I guess this just isn't going to work.

Sorry Whomper. I'd have joined if I owned a pokemon game.

Man, I would have loved to have signed up as an EEVEELUTION Gym leader.

Huh? That's violating the gym rules? Well, Koga did it with his status effect gym! The way I see it, Gyms don't have to be connected by a common type, just a common element.

But as long as you're cancelling it... I guess I won't.

How can you say it's not going to work without even trying.

Aw, I wanted to apply with poison types.

I already called Eeveelution

(12-07-2009 05:36 PM)Haplo_64 Wrote:  How can you say it's not going to work without even trying.

Two thirds of the people wanting to play don't want to play using an actual game, but rather a program and a virtual game. The legality of such a thing is something I don't wish to be involved with.

I am more than willing to do this league with people who actually own a game and a DS, and can play each other through the appropriate channels, but not with this other Shoddy stuff and whatnot.

Following that, I have received one Private Message regarding this. If any of you are still interested, then SHOW it. All I had heard prior to that post was "baw baw can't do it on a DS", which discouraged me into wanting to dump the idea.

Curse you, Masa! Again I have been thwarted by your legendary sword maker ways!

Well, that's all I have right now, guess I'll be a player.

Though, to be fair, I'm not really an EV kind of guy (just an eevee kind of guy), so I might not be the best Gym Leader. THough since gym leaders are supposed to be beatable in some way... it wouldn't be too terrible.

Hey Masa, can I apply as a trainer in your Gym? =D

I honestly hate Shoddy, but I would also suggest that it should be considered as an Alternative for this specific endeavor. Not only would it make it highly accessible to the forum in it's entirety, it is also a great time saver for anyone interested in this thread. Training Pokemon is very time consuming which is a huge reason as to why Shoddy is so popular. The way it's set up is that you can assign-- not stats-- but Effort Points and IVs to Pokemon as you like. These change the stats, but the changes are legal, unless you go beyond legal bounds; Shoddy notifies you if you do though. Aside from that, there really is no way to cheat, and this form of cheating is an issue with Cart Battling anyway and more difficult to prove. In Shoddy you can sit in on battles and see if people do in fact Cheat, whereas DS Battles it would be one voice vs another. This goes for Clauses as well, you can set Shoddy to have the Clauses you have stated above (Freeze Clause I'm unsure of, but definitely the rest.) Anyway, avoiding a rant...

Smogon is really not a bad way to go.
I'm sure the only reason Nintendo hasn't set up something like it is because they want people Buying the Game. Are you working for Nintendo? o.O;;

And your concern with Hacked Pokemon, and Illegitimacy:
People can easily avoid being caught on WiFi, it's a bit harder on Smogon, so if this is truly a concern, you should go with Smogon.

When I called dibs on Eeveelutions I was told "no" and then "not yet", so don't expect to see me as one of the first Gym Leaders at least.

Also, while with Shoddy/Smogon/whatever you can't "cheat", I'm pretty sure that some people would call having a team of six pokémon with all max IVs, beneficial natures, abilities and a load of egg/TM moves as "cheating", even though it's technically possible to get them all legally (just like it's technically possible, if you buy enough lottery tickets, to get six jackpot winners).