Balance Thread

masamunemaniac Wrote:Wait, we're trying to balance the 1/1 monsters against the 1/1 monsters that haven't been balanced yet? That makes no sense.

I mean, really, the likes of Crystal Atomaton are like some crazy uber Tanuki, with stats worthy of a 1.5 mana monster, but 100% generation. Seriously, a 1/1 monster should be halfway between a 1 mana monster (upper end, like Boomboxen, Diane or Tanuki) and a 2 mana monster.

I personally would like to balance things so that they're balanced in power, not so that they're as weak/crappy/useless as the 1-2 mana creatures that came before it.  Crystal Automaton is a great example of what a cheap creature should be, in my opinion.  Paraman isn't too bad, either, I suppose, but a slight boost probably wouldn't hurt it, either.  Tanukis are terrible, but they were kind of fun as they were uber-rare and the only super-low-cost generator creatures.  Diane's not useful either.  Boomboxen is debatable (I think it could still be better), but its primary use is a Magic Skull with the flexibility to be used as a weenie if you want to.

masamunemaniac Wrote:The dual gens that require allying want further nerfed to me. Firstly, they cheaply power other allying cards. Secondly, with just three of them out they become dual generators, which can be easily done on turn three. Compared with the existing very highly sought after Stone Orb, Nova Crystal and Onyx Ornament these are simply much, much better. I don't know what would be the best way to fix that - make the dual generation require (Allying 4), make the first generation require (Allying 1), or remove the sac completely. But whatever's done, they need nerfed, or they'll render the existing dual gens completely obsolete.

The opinions on this vary, from "nuke them from orbit" (masa) to "further nerfing would be insane" (Andriex).  I think they could probably use a sac decrease, to one mana.

masamunemaniac Wrote:

sugegstion Wrote:Exhaust Port Torpedo
Really, really specialized, even in the MC testbed sandbox, and if you don't have a target, you can't cantrip it.
Suggestion: Destroy target effect, if it is a weapon (allows cantrip)

Whoa, you want to add a 1.7 mana Effect D, that potentially cantrips? That's utter madness. I can think one of two alternatives:
Up the cost to maybe 22, and allow it to target any weapon type entity (ie including monster or attach).
Up the cost to 21 or 12, change text to:
Destroy target
Weapon effect, or
Allying 2: Target
player draws a card
(Like how that monster which can target either a monster or player for 5 damage).

Well, for one thing, it's already a "1.7 mana effect D that potentially cantrips".  It also only targets like 5% of available effects.  Burn Burn targets any effect, with a 50 life penalty, for about the same cost, and it's generally more dangerous (turn 2 lock stuff).  I don't like cards that are useless the vast majority of the time, but potent hosers the rest of the time.  Targeting non-effect weapons makes it slightly more general-purpose, but there are even fewer of those.  So I figure that if I remove the targeting restriction (without changing its effectiveness), I could at least let people cycle the card.  That said, if you want to go with your second suggestion (targeting players), that's fine too, but I don't particularly see the need for a cost increase.