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Stealing Drecker's Thunder
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03-07-2008, 12:47 AM
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Stealing Drecker's Thunder
He has a really cool ability and some decent stats. However, he seems way overcosted. Here, I think the abiliy warrents quicker playing so a cheaper cost seems like a much better boost over more stats. He also has no special abilities to get through blockers, so that limits his ability somewhat too. Since you guys like incrementalism, I prospose ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) 8, however I don't think ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) 7 would be unbalanced.
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03-07-2008, 01:02 AM
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sXeAndriex
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
You are completely right, he's WAY over costed.
While I'm generally one to go for incremental balance, I'm voting for a straight two cost reduction to 7. In this case, I don't think 6 would be bad, but changing it to 8 wouldn't do jack shit so I'm settling for 7.
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03-07-2008, 01:51 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
I'm with Andriex. 7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) with a 9 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) sac.
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03-07-2008, 03:18 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
I agree with 7 cost 9 sac\
also I think I sold my copies for 600 points apeice back when I first redeemed the voucher Yay.
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03-07-2008, 04:10 AM
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NOLDER
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
/agreement
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03-07-2008, 04:12 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
I'm for 7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) /9 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) as well.
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03-07-2008, 04:13 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
Another for 7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) /9 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) .
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03-07-2008, 04:26 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
He was actually pretty good a while ago, I used to use him quite a bit in my Light decks.
I think it might have been the introduction of Data Hack that reduced his appeal and usefulness.
Not sure that he really warrants a 2 cost decrease myself, but whatever.
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03-07-2008, 10:29 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
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03-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) /9
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03-07-2008, 11:31 AM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) /9
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03-08-2008, 07:44 PM
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E-mouse
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
Card theft is nothing to sneeze at, and he can survive a hit from a 6-cost beatstick, but his stats are closer to a 4-mana unique...
Mmm, 7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) /8 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) would probably be fine. I think he could use a cost drop, but to 8 probably wouldn't be enough; lowering his sac a little would make up the difference. He's brutal if you're already established or currently have the upper hand, but that's tough enough to earn on its own.
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03-08-2008, 08:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2008 09:03 PM by Blue_Elite.)
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
1 Slime Valley will make his card stealing useless. If carryover damage counted I could see your point Mus but this is limited card theft, not Data Hack level reliability.
EDIT: Response to "Card theft is nothing to sneeze at", I couldn't care less if his sac was -3 his cost.
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03-08-2008, 08:44 PM
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sXeAndriex
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
8 sac wouldn't bother me in the slightest (I never got why he had the extra anyway.)
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03-08-2008, 09:02 PM
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E-mouse
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
Blue, while Slime Valley is a (very) good card, not all decks have reliable mass defender generation, and having to choose between "getting hit for (big#)+1/2(20)" or "getting hit for only 20+1/2(big#) and losing a card" can be a tough choice if you don't have like three of them in play anyway. One-for-one gloops will slow him down, but if you're using him alone you're in (big) trouble anyway.
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03-08-2008, 09:12 PM
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Blue_Elite
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
My point was more that the card stealing is highly preventable, not that Slime Valley is a counter.
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03-13-2008, 10:19 PM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
Tally:
Reduce Cost/Sac to 7/9![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) : Vincent, sXeAndriex, Nacho, Sol, NOLDER, Ultros, azulknight, Shadowhunter, Kennisiou, bubbleman2, �ルノ(wants 8 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) sac)
???: masamunemaniac("Not sure that he really warrants a 2 cost decrease myself, but whatever.")
Won't bother with totals. Cost 7 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) sac 9 ![[Image: lmana.gif]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/masamunemaniac/signature/lmana.gif) is the winner.
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03-13-2008, 10:34 PM
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NOLDER
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
what would we do without you to count the votes blue?
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03-13-2008, 10:56 PM
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
I'd count the votes. I probably wouldn't post the counts (they'd be messy Excel spreadsheet affairs), but I would count them.
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03-14-2008, 12:48 AM
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NOLDER
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RE: Stealing Drecker's Thunder
xD
fair enough
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