Captain Crap

Well, according to the "curve" I determined using linear regression based on current monster stats, Dash would probably be something like 77/77, Legend Hawk would be something like 75/80, and Kilothi... well, I can't really say, since who knows how important the zero sac and skewed stat balance are (one of the two doesn't seem to be factored in at all right now).  Maybe as high as 60/120?  55/110 at least.  

The amount of data available for pinning down how much more valuable a high-attack monster is vs. a high-life monster is pretty minimal, mostly based on the opinions of veterans rather than anything hard and numerical.  The value of "abnormal" sac is similarly nebulous.

maybe make war dashes ability entity instead of monster?
or make it cantrip when you use it?

Or make it put the bottommost alien in your opponent's deck on top and then reveal the top card, and making them draw it if its mana cost divides into your own lifepoints without a remainder.

i like that idea

I propose that nearly-vanilla monsters (ones with very slight synergy abilities or something that just makes them better beatsticks like temporary damage increases) be henceforth be called French Vanilla.

I like that idea (web's).

So Olaf the Unspeakable is French Vanilla?

He's delicious.

I would have had him pegged as more of a Norwegian Vanilla.

Anyone have any ideas for abilities to give Dash and Legend Hawk, assuming we decide to make them French Vanilla?

kilothi cruiser
2 Switch attack and defence

legend hawk
gives your other birds +5 attack or something simple like spell or ability immune

Dash
..... I'm coming up empty

just a few idea's anyway

French vanilla works for webrunner (I just wanted clarification on that previous post, so I asked).

Remember, nothing that works with only a specific other card (that was a rule back for 1 and 2 mana monsters).

Other than that, don't go crazy. And don't rule out numbers changes if numbers changes will suffice either

Why is Dash a big creature anyways? In the comic he's almost incompetent, and displays no fighting skills.

Well, he controls a whole ship full of semi-competent people. And the ship itself is very powerful as well. This is why the eleven costing Dash makes sense flavor-wise (I think). Anyways, it makes sense to me.

All the humans from Star Something are considerably weak. Even Gorthax who has the excuse of being an alien is weaker than Dash.
But really, it's not our place to say what every little aspect of a card should or should not be. web is the card creator. He made Dash an expensive monster and so that's what we have to work with.

Now getting back on track:

Dash Breakneck
When you play a ship
Dash loses 3 life and
gains 6 attack

Legend Hawk
Has 4 more attack for
each bird you control
Draw phase: gains 2
life for each bird in play

Khilothi Cruiser
Destroyed: Gain equal
to 5% of Khilothi Crusier's
attack

I'm not sure if we have to work around the flavor text in which case what I'm proposing for Dash is completely out and for Legend Hawk only one half of the ability would fit.

does legend hawk really need to boost bird decks when its legend hawk thats the problem?

Dash Breakneck:

Ships you control gain (Focus)

Ships you control can't be dizzied by spells or abilities

Ships you control gain (Decoy)

@NOLDER: It boosts itself from birds, not boost other birds.

That was also the direction I was hoping to go in. Having these cards boost themselves from a minor ability rather than boost other cards. It becomes much easier to balance when only 1 card is affected rather than a large amount of them (for instance, ZFF Drone is a ship that costs 1/1, any sort of boost to all ships from Dash would have to take that easy availability into account).


Final note is that I actually planned to stay out of this as I have no real strong basis for an idea for these cards. If you don't like the ideas that's fine, was mainly just trying to get us on track with things I thought up in about 5 minutes.
Additionally, it would probably make more sense for Khilothi Cruiser to cause gain based off of remaining life when destroyed as a pseudo sac/destruction spell bonus.

I like Blue_Elite's suggestion for Legend Hawk.

Not so much Kilothi Cruiser and Dash. I dunno, give me a bit and I'll think of my own suggestions for those two.

Blue_Elite Wrote:@NOLDER: It boosts itself from birds, not boost other birds.

That was also the direction I was hoping to go in. Having these cards boost themselves from a minor ability rather than boost other cards. It becomes much easier to balance when only 1 card is affected rather than a large amount of them (for instance, ZFF Drone is a ship that costs 1/1, any sort of boost to all ships from Dash would have to take that easy availability into account).


Final note is that I actually planned to stay out of this as I have no real strong basis for an idea for these cards. If you don't like the ideas that's fine, was mainly just trying to get us on track with things I thought up in about 5 minutes.
Additionally, it would probably make more sense for Khilothi Cruiser to cause gain based off of remaining life when destroyed as a pseudo sac/destruction spell bonus.

oh i misread it
sorry
yeah that seems fine
also i like the suggestion in this post for khilothi cruiser