Reka sucks.

i saw bane playing one of those the other day

I would be alright with a full life heal, but no stats changes.

She's fine.  A niche card, yes, but for a healer she has decent stats.  -5/-0 compared to Karn, the 4 beatstick, which I think is a perfectly fine tradeoff.  Giving her more life would be boarderline making her better than karn, just in stats.  Why in the world would you want to make a healer better than a beatstick?  I don't even care if paladin livegiver is "better," because Reka is still good.  She already has more life and attack than the paladin, so I can't possibly see why she would be too bad to play, and yes, I have used her before, and found her better than the paladin in the deck.

I disagree with what Noodle says. Reka may not be as strong as some other cards and she doesn't
have quite as powerful healing abilities as paladin lifegiver, Diane, Howard, ect. But that's what sets her apart from other cards! If your deck consists of mainly robots she's a valuable addition to your deck. And if not, she can still do a decent amount of damage, can take a fair amount of damage, and if she gets killed it's not much of a big deal.

It's not "much of a big deal" if Clash Chookie dies. It's still essentially throwing away a card you could of put to much better use by choosing something else.

Vincent Wrote:She's fine. A niche card, yes, but for a healer she has decent stats. -5/-0 compared to Karn, the 4 beatstick, which I think is a perfectly fine tradeoff. Giving her more life would be boarderline making her better than karn, just in stats. Why in the world would you want to make a healer better than a beatstick? I don't even care if paladin livegiver is "better," because Reka is still good. She already has more life and attack than the paladin, so I can't possibly see why she would be too bad to play, and yes, I have used her before, and found her better than the paladin in the deck.

Why do you want a healer with decent stats? If you're spending money on a card with more attack, wouldn't you want to.. oh, I don't know.. ATTACK?

That's exactly what you'd be doing. Sacrificing self-healing for 30/45 isn't a good trade off, Paladin Lifegiver is so much better. I've used both too, and found the self heal trait of the Lifegiver to be much more useful.

Noodle Wrote:

Vincent Wrote:She's fine.  A niche card, yes, but for a healer she has decent stats.  -5/-0 compared to Karn, the 4 beatstick, which I think is a perfectly fine tradeoff.  Giving her more life would be boarderline making her better than karn, just in stats.  Why in the world would you want to make a healer better than a beatstick?  I don't even care if paladin livegiver is "better," because Reka is still good.  She already has more life and attack than the paladin, so I can't possibly see why she would be too bad to play, and yes, I have used her before, and found her better than the paladin in the deck.

Why do you want a healer with decent stats? If you're spending money on a card with more attack, wouldn't you want to.. oh, I don't know.. ATTACK?

It works both ways. Why would you want a beatstick that can heal? She's a beatstick in my opinion, not a healer. She has beatstick-like stats.

Just because a card is a healer doesn't mean you always want to attack with it.  Reka can be both a healer or a beatstick.  This is why she has a minor stat reduction for a minor ability.  You want both because of options. Sometimes a healer just isn't going to have anything to heal, so they need to go to battle. Yet sometimes it's better to heal a monster, so that's what you do. Like I said before, it seems like a fair tradeoff.  Giving her more life would just make her a better beatstick and healer, but she's already good enough as is.

Blue_Elite Wrote:It's not "much of a big deal" if Clash Chookie dies. It's still essentially throwing away a card you could of put to much better use by choosing something else.

Yes it's not much of a big deal if clash Chookie dies; but does clash Chookie have 30/45? I don't think so. look at it this way, Reka is more of a medic card. In the fact she can fight and, as a bonus can heal.

I'm with Bubbleman and Vincent on this, Reka is a beatstick, with the stats of a beatstick, who can, if headed, heal robots. that healing is worth at least -5 attack, and so she's fine. Besides, if you really wanted her to heal herself, there's always exo-suit.

Tell me why the fuck you're running a 4 beatstick in a robot deck and I'll be more inclined to believe you. Sacrificing self-healing for the stats is not that good, if you just want a fucking 4 beatstick then just run Karn. He does his job better than Reka does, and I'm not going to spend an unneeded 33 just so she can heal herself.

Your reasons are stupid.

Edited because I said fuck too much and it made me sound a lot meaner than I want to. I mean, I still wanted to be pretty mean, but I didn't want to use fuck that much.

Edited to make your code work.

Noodle Wrote:Tell me why the fuck you're running a 4 beatstick in a robot deck and I'll be more inclined to believe you.

Because my Robot deck was D/G and could use some splash, and a 30/45 beatstick who could also heal my Rust Dragon if he just killed a Legend Hawk seemed like a good idea at the time. Or because it was defensive G/L allying and Exosuit already fit in perfectly because it gave one of my monsters +20/20 for only 3/3 and gave me one allying, and healing my defensive robots sounded good. Or because my robot deck was light beatdown with large amounts of D and G splash, and healing my Blood Armors and Mechahawks, while very useful and worth 5 attack, wasn't as important as the fact that my healer also had decent stats (another case where Exo-Suit would be nice if only for the +20/20 for 3/3).

Oh, so you were using it to heal your robots? You know, like the card was meant for. You know, like the thing I was saying it should be doing this entire thread?

Have you not been paying attention or something?

If she's a beatstick with a bad robot healing ability, and we want to instead give her a good robot healing ability, then there shouldn't be a problem with decreasing the stats so she's not a beatstick anymore, right?

masamunemaniac Wrote:If she's a beatstick with a bad robot healing ability, and we want to instead give her a good robot healing ability, then there shouldn't be a problem with decreasing the stats so she's not a beatstick anymore, right?

None at all.

No, I was using it to both heal my robots and as a beatstick. You know, like the card was meant for.

edit: I like her as a beatstick. she works well in my robot decks, where her healing ability is second to her beatstickness, while still useful in certain situations.

The card was meant to be used as a beatstick?

Man, I'm a fucking idiot. I thought webrunner gave Reka the ability to heal so she could be used as a healer instead of a beatstick.

And I thought he gave her near beatstick stats so we could chose wither to attack with her as a beatstick, or heal with her as a healer. Jill of all trades, master of none style.

Really, she's a beatstick. Just like how Dove is a weenie with a minor ability. A card can be decent at two things. Saying that she was meant to do one or the other just doesn't make sense with her current stats and ability. I'm against any sort of stat drop and any sort of boost to her ability because that goes against what the card was designed to do.

Does that include Ultros' idea for a change? Because I'm pretty sure that would change her from a versatile healer and beatstick into a useful healer and the exact same beatstick.

I see a lot of comments on why sacrificing her stats to make her a better healer is bad, I don't really see any commentary on why ultros' suggestion would be a bad idea. This really has less to do with the current argument than it does turning it towards a direction... I... care about at all.

Oh, and a card can both be a good ability monster and a good beatstick. She doesn't need to be a bad healer to be a good combat monster. Hell, look at Cody for the perfect comparison. It can dizzy robots and is a perfectly good 3 mana beatstick. Really, I think he should be the guidepost for Reka's balance.