Other trivial boosts (War Gens, Plains)

I guess I wouldn't mind making TDQ "end turn".  That would seem to be a decent nerf, allowing an actual opportunity for the opponent to respond, without totally castrating the card.  I wonder why that hasn't come up (or did I miss it?).

Good points on spell-ified Plains, though.  I didn't consider offensive applications.

Why not just remove it as a card.... As in.... goodbye!

Give everyone a chookie instead for each plains they own.

That way only time you'll be able to use it is by slime traveler.

Tamdrik Wrote:I guess I wouldn't mind making TDQ "end turn".  That would seem to be a decent nerf, allowing an actual opportunity for the opponent to respond, without totally castrating the card.  I wonder why that hasn't come up (or did I miss it?).

That's actually a great idea. Mind proposing it in The TDQ Nerf Thread I set up?

webrunner didn't remove WYBM - he's not going to remove Plains

Yeah, he also didn't turn WYBM into an effect that comes into play dizzy-locked, so I doubt he'll spellify plains...

I know, I know, it was my own suggestion, but I was mostly just hoping it would come up in masterwork tools... Although spell plains would be very useful.

Tally: (Battery Relic and Elemental Artifact are grouped together as the changes proposed are mutually exclusive)

Battery Relic/Elemental Artifact
Life lose decreased (BR): Shadowhunter(7), bubbleman2(8), ThePanda(8), Noodle(assumed)
Total: 4
Life gain increased (EA): Blue_Elite(15), masamunemaniac(15; BR: 15 & EA: 20), �ルノ(15, assumed), Vincent(15), Ultros(prefers to nerf both if anything), Kennisiou(15-17; BR: 10-12), Aldgar Omk(assumed)
Total: 7

Well, there certainly is a majority in favor of the nerf to Elemental Artifact. There are even some who want to take it further (though that looks to be about even with those who don't want even this much).
One thing to point out is that generally if someone was pro nerf or against nerf, the feelings were the same towards the MC gens.

There was also small discussion of how to make Plains better. Too little for me to consider worth counting but to sum it up: nerfing Slime Traveller's ability might come up again in the near future.