Gildward The Swift & Chookie The Bold!

Let's give him (Flash). But actually, he's fine. He's not really great, but not every card has to be amazing. His ability is unique, which I think is enough for him.

Flash seems like it'd be the opposite of what he should be flavour-wise: Instantly coming out of hiding to be a surprise blocker? Doesn't quite fit

Vincent Wrote:He's not really great, but not every card has to be amazing. His ability is unique, which I think is enough for him.

There's a difference between not being amazing and being worthless.

I like giving him Focus (having him be a repeatable 5 damage-if-your-opponent-isn't-prepared annoyance amuses me deeply), but I'm not sure about making the only way to counter him the (Opponent creatures take >5 damage) mechanic. A speed drop to B would at least let you hit him with Foom or Firebolt regardless of whether a clickwar during Attack Resolution occurs.

Sounds fair enough.

It's not the kind of ability that should be S speed anyway; there's even a clickwar with Chookie (who's meant to be the one S speed exception) should they both be undizzied at the same time (via Selection Committee, for instance)

I don't know. Gilward, and 0-mana creatures in general, is already somewhat of a problem through his abilities. Right now, it will be hard to implement a card that say "whenever you play a creature" without it being broken just by gildward. For another, I really don't like the idea of "balancing" just because. Still, this is mostly a "You say Why Not? I say Why?".

Hello Wrote:I don't know. Gilward, and 0-mana creatures in general, is already somewhat of a problem through his abilities. Right now, it will be hard to implement a card that say "whenever you play a creature" without it being broken just by gildward.

Ultros Wrote:Occasionally breaking the game with new cards doesn't really count as a niche use; those combos have all been removed, and doubtlessly any unanticipated future ones will be, too.

Hello Wrote:For another, I really don't like the idea of "balancing" just because. Still, this is mostly a "You say Why Not? I say Why?".

Rather then quote everyone else on this point: he's useless. Maybe not useless entirely, but useless to the same degree as Z-Strike in a deck with only 1 Karn and Hero (very very rarely will ever make a difference).

It's balancing for the sake of balance because Gildward is typically flavorfully underpowered. In this case however, his absolute lack of any use aside from breaking the game which isn't technically a use (and ends up getting fixed anyway) does actually warrant a change.

I like the change for this reason:

NOLDER Wrote:huh
i didn't think about it before but now that dirlends right there in front of me
making gildward unable to be dizzied would be a nice counter to him

Focus plus reducing the ability to is fine with me. It'd match the on War Gildward.

I like it, though I'd like Chookie to get something too (1 sac sounds fine).

Seriously guys, I don't think we need to be concerned about on a 5/5 creature.  If anything it's a convience, because you'll probably want to bounce him every turn so that he doesn't get directly attacked anyway. I guess (Focus) would be fun on him.

Okay, focus is fine I guess as I just realized Gremlin's ability is below average... I might just make a thread because of this.

Technically Gildward's ability fails to meet all the criteria for :

1- The ability must not affect your opponent in any way
2- The ability isn't a spell. Spells don't need to be S-Speed
3- The ability does not dizzy
4- The ability wouldn't otherwise be slower than A
5- the ability must be the sort you would use over and over, S is to save time.
6- If the card has any reason that using it on your opponent's turn would lead to it being countered, then it probably shouldn't be S.
7- If in doubt, no S.

It's really minor but so was Mana Explosion.

gildward is BROKEN
nerf it now!

I actually kind of like this idea, although I don't know if Web would... I can almost hear his reaction: this is the balance forum, not the fantasy card forum.

If he's for it, though, then that'll be pretty cool.

Count me as in for focus and .

Give him focus, leave him at

Make Chookie 8/12

(focus) sounds fine. I really, really don't get why he should be changed from S speed. It seems pointless.

Here's a question: if I use a spell like Potent Injection and Gildward bounces before it resolves, have I wasted the spell or does it stay in hand? Likewise if the opponent targets it with something like Firebolt?

The spell fails and you waste it.

It's wasted, I'm certain.

Alright, other than Chookie is there any other abuse/click war that can be thought of with Gildward at ?

EDIT: And Slime Valley as that has its own click wars with many other cards.