[Nerf] Secret Asteroid Base [Finished]

About the 5/5/5, here's my thought. It was 3/3/3 after every turn, which as mentioned would be 6/6/6. With it only working every other turn still, it would actually be worse for spamming smaller ships (or in others words, the same as it is now), and it's still worse at bringing out hermes or zeus.

But as nobody is throwing around other numbers, what's the opinion of 4/4/4 or 3/3/3?

(12-24-2008 07:13 PM)NOLDER Wrote:  edit: it's also more of a nerf then 5/5/5

No it's not. 5/5/5 every 2 turns VS 6/6/6 every 2 turns with the added option of replacing it with 9/9/9 every 3 turns. Tell me how the 2nd one is weaker than the first?

@ Jess: I'd be fine with 4/4/4, but I'm not sure about the rest of the community, which is why I only asked for 5/5/5. 3/3/3's pushing it.

Edit: web vetoed all suggestions that don't dizzy lock the card NOLDER, which includes Ultros'

You can't get ideas rejected though if you don't post them.

I could see 4/4/4 as being balanced.

(12-24-2008 05:45 PM)Bubbleman Wrote:  It got veto'd:

masa Wrote:This change has been vetoed by webrunner: Prefers it to keep dizzy-lock so as not to be useable every turn. An incrementing counter system is fine though.

I still think we should just add a dizzy-locking ability onto Ultros's suggestion to activate the counters.

his idea is fine how it is

why does it need to dizzy lock?

(12-24-2008 05:45 PM)Bubbleman Wrote:  It got veto'd:

masa Wrote:This change has been vetoed by webrunner: Prefers it to keep dizzy-lock so as not to be useable every turn. An incrementing counter system is fine though.

(12-26-2008 06:52 AM)Serith Wrote:  

(12-24-2008 05:45 PM)Bubbleman Wrote:  It got veto'd:

masa Wrote:This change has been vetoed by webrunner: Prefers it to keep dizzy-lock so as not to be useable every turn. An incrementing counter system is fine though.

(12-26-2008 06:52 AM)Serith Wrote:  

(12-24-2008 05:45 PM)Bubbleman Wrote:  It got veto'd:

masa Wrote:This change has been vetoed by webrunner: Prefers it to keep dizzy-lock so as not to be useable every turn. An incrementing counter system is fine though.

so?
i'd prefer chocolate ice cream, but i'm also ok with vanilla
thats what that says
and since i prefer vanilla rather than chocolate that's what i'm advocating

Dizzy locking and an incrementing counter system are not mutually exclusive ideas. What he's saying is closer to "It has to be chocolate ice cream no matter what, but if you want, you can add sprinkles".

You can have an incrementing counter system, but it still has to dizzy lock on use.

hmmm

you might be right actually

i can still see it going either way though
maybe someone should ask just to be clear?

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

I'm going for the chocolate/vanilla swirl.

edit: what we're trying to say is that those two things aren't mutually exclusive. The card can have both traits.

how would ultros' idea with dizzy lock work exactly serith?

End turn: counter +1
Doesn't undizzy next turn:
Next ship played costs 3X 3X 3X
less where X is counter; reset cnt to 0

ah
yeah that works for me

Great idea. Now, instead of free Hermes, they cost a whole mana. I'm just worried we might be overnerfing it.

Maybe if it was 2 counters a turn.

1 counter a turn seems fine to me

Then you might as well be using Rainbow Alters. They cost less, you aren't restricted to using the mana they provide on ships and they give you 1/1/1 every turn rather than 2/2/2 every other turn. Two counters a turn seems fine, but at one counter a turn the card would be useless outside of It's Alive decks in my opinion.